Joe Grundy

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  I just love this board because ....

  by eyeslice in

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  eyeslice .

  in my case because it gives me a sense of community and a source of news that i must admit i miss since leaving the 'truth'.

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  Joe Grundy

  ... as an 'outsider' it enables me to ask what might seem to 'insiders' some pretty dumb questions and always get a sensible reply. (Thanks)
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  What are you reading?

  by damselfly in

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  2. entertainment

  now that i'm done with school for the summer i've got some spare time to read as much as i like.

  heaven!

  i just finished "sylvanus now" by donna morrisey.

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  Joe Grundy

  For those interested in these things, can I recommend 'The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception' by two of the three who wrote 'HB&HG' (Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln). Throws a new light on some important NT times stuff.

  I enjoyed (but it took a few readings) 'A Short History of Nearly Everything' by Bill Bryson.

  And for fun I avidly read and re-read anything by Garrison Keillor.
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  Most ridiculous Kingdom Melody Lyrics

  by Fleshybirdfodder in

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  a couple of my favs:.

  "loyal love, god is love, may god's love move us to love".

  "...like bees that were molested, but we can ever beat them off...".

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  Joe Grundy

  This thread gives me the opportunity to ask (yet) another question.

  I have only ever attended two services and one memorial (more than enough, thanks very much). Is it true that everywhere in the world on the same day, they sing the same songs/hymns? And that the (pretty crap) musical accompaniment (sp?) comes on tape from WTBTS HQ? If so, why? Why no live music (even if it is some crappo organist?)
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  Good evening, JW spy visitors...........

  by Sunnygal41 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have it on the most impeccable authority that our site is regularly monitored............my first reply was "lol...........no surprise.......we've known this for some time.........and we spy on their sites, also.

  " my next thought, or rather vision was of the iconic "spy vs. spy" cartoon in mad magazine.............guess my years free are showing.........

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  On a serious note, can anyone say for sure that WTBTS DOES monitor this site and follow things up?

  I ask as an outsider because I have posted here about my concerns for my my JW neighbours/friends.

  I have not (I hope) posted anything on here which might lead to their identification (not even the country concerned) out of fear that if they were identified there could be repercussions for them for 'bad' association with me. Which is difficult, because there are cultural issues about which I'd like to ask advice.

  If it were for me, I'd be happy to identify myself (not a JW, never have been, never will be) but I have real concerns for them.

  Are my concerns justified?
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  If you had the chance who would you meet from this forum???

  by Es in

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  2. friends

  there are just so many i would love to meet, some more attainable than others.. sparkplug.

  misspeaches.

  damselfly.

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  Anyone except JW apologists.

  But attractive females would have first priority .... well, I've never claimed to be anything but 'worldly' and 'bad association'!
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  I have to make one of the toughest decisions of my life

  by unbeliever in

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  i am not even sure why i am posting because its so personal but i could really use some advice.

  i am also embarrassed that i got myself in this situation.

  there is this guy that i have known for a couple of years.

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  Joe Grundy

  I may not be the best one to offer advice. I'm a 50 year old man. But I do have some life experience and a daughter a few years younger than you, so I can visualise your situation as if it applied to her.

  I would not consider marriage, or uprooting your whole life. You say you have a career, a good network of support, etc. where you are. You will be a better parent if you are happy and supported, even as a single parent (and there's not much stigma to that nowadays - in many places (including parts of the UK) it's almost the norm).

  A loveless marriage may well bring you down, with the resulting effect on your child. There is a balance between making a sacrifice for your child and doing what's best for you as a person.

  You say it's been a 'no commitments' relationship, and pregnancy doesn't automatically change that. He has commitments in terms of child support and obviously some sort of 'access' rights, but that is, IMHO, no basis for a marriage.

  If you married him and moved to UK, there is a distinct possibilty of legal complications and restrictions (e.g. if you separated you may have to get court permission to take the child out of the jurisdiction of the England and Wales courts). You would find life in the UK very different to life in Nevada (not necessarily better or worse, just different) and dealing with that could be difficult enough without having to look after a (first) new baby.

  Try closing your eyes and visualising youself, your baby and your life in 5, 10, 15 years time. Do you see your future with this man? (I suspect you already know the answer to this.)

  You MUST consider your own happiness, because that will reflect on your relationship with your child.

  Good luck and best wishes whatever you decide.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-28-06 WT Study (HANDS)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 5-28-06 wt study (april 15, 2006 issue date, pages 25-29)(hands be strong).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  Joe Grundy

  Blondie,

  Just to add my thanks to the others on here for your work on the 'Study' series.

  I've previously posted on here about my JW friends/neighbours. Recently the husband called round to my apt with some mail. I was online at the time (just had broadband connected) and we were discussing that. He has a slow dial-up connection and had previously told me that he spent a fair amount of time online. I offered him use of my PC, but he said that he's now decided to upgrade to BB (not cheap here).

  I've explained to him my religious views (atheist but academically interested) and told him I will be 'bad association' for him because I like to check things out and ask too many questions. He doesn't bring me publications any more, but asked me if I wanted the WT to look at the 'studies'. I explained that a) I didn't like the way they conducted their studies and they weren't really studies at all and b) I had on-line access to the material anyway, and could cross-check things using on-line resources. He was surprised that I was able to discuss current studies (thanks to Blondie).

  This made him think, 'cos he's always emphasised the need to check things out (as WTBTS do, but only in relation to OTHER religions). I showed him a couple of sites (not this one, just quotes from their own WT stuff). He reiterated as he left that he was upgrading to BB.

  In short ('too late' you shout!) never underestimate the value of the work you do here.
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  Lots of Bethelites Not Happy With Downsizing

  by Seeker4 in

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  i had a long conversation last night with an old jw friend whose sister and brother-in-law are bethelites since the 1970s.

  she is an artist, and he runs a small but important department there.. we were talking about the bethel downsizing (my friend was well aware of it), and i told him i figured his sister and b-i-l would be safe due to the fact that they are now in their 60s and have something close to 4 decades seniority.

  but he said no, that they were worried that they would be asked to leave as well, sent into the circuit work or as special pioneers sent where the "need is great.".

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  Joe Grundy

  As an outsider (never been a JW, but learning the terminology from this and other sites) I have a confession to make.

  Whenever I see the word 'bethel' my brain immediately reads it as 'brothel'.

  This phrase in the last posting did not help: " the large number of Bethelites being tossed out. "

  I will try to overcome this in the interests of reasoned discussion.
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  Non JW marriage

  by I-follow-the-narrow-path in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this one christian (non jw) and i are starting to get close.

  i was wondering... if i did marry a christian (but a non jw)... would the church look down on me?

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  Joe Grundy

  With all due respect, in view of your problems as expressed in previous postings I don't think that you should be making any major life decisions right now - whether to do with entering a religion or a marriage.
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  Does the INSIDE of your vehicle reflect your personality?

  by Gregor in

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  a garbage can on wheels or neat, clean and tidy?

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  Joe Grundy

  Me, I was never too bothered.

  My son washes/vacuums/polishes/details his car every week. Every two weeks he jacks it up, takes off the wheels and washes/polishes the alloys.

  He's just got a new car (mitsubishi GTO twin turbo) so it can only get worse.